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Can LGBTQ+ and Christians See Eye To Eye?

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Russ Grim
Russ Grim 39 daqiqa oldin
I would rather you cold or hot, than lukewarm. - Jesus Middle road Christianity is sweet to the world. Homosexuality is a sin. Even if you are born attracted to same-sex, there is your personal walk to turn away from the sin, and not go back. I didn't write it. Repentance is not "Sorry, but I got to be me." I have an addictive personality. It's easy for me to get hooked into anything and make an idol out of it. The homosexual community has made an idol out of their sexual lifestyle. Heterosexuals also have idols. Everybody does. Sports, Video games, Social media and even family can be idols. "Pick up your cross and follow Me." Can't do that daily being middle road. Pick your lane, each of you.
Girl
Girl 2 soat oldin
Alternative title: Normal people talk to normal people
Girl
Girl 2 soat oldin
Next episode: Republicans vs. sane people
colourmycosplay
colourmycosplay 3 soat oldin
Idea: you should make a video on pagans/Wiccans and Christians
Maika 2000
Maika 2000 4 soat oldin
5:52 if it’s non-consensual it’s not sex. It’s rape.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 soat oldin
Lmao
lee norton
lee norton 4 soat oldin
i love james.
Changster Bob
Changster Bob 5 soat oldin
I agree that homosexuality is a sin. But so is divorce or any sex outside of marriage. At the end of the day homosexuality is simply one trait of a person and that one trait cannot determine the worth of a person. The Bible teaches us that we are all sinners whether we are homosexual or heterosexual and that we should love everyone. So lets just learn to accept each other!
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 3 soat oldin
And why is that? Do we inherit from Eve? did Eve make a decision for the unborn? So do we still have equal free will?
Dan Paulin
Dan Paulin 7 soat oldin
I think it’s important to say that God is a spirit and has no gender so by saying God created us in his image and yet we have two genders we can assume God contains both male and female tendencies and that in birth we’re just born on that spectrum of gender. how that presents itself in sexuality is gay or lesbian or bisexual etc
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 3 soat oldin
Because of old idea that the male = active force, and the female = receptive capacity, perhaps?
Kyra _ Glazzy
Kyra _ Glazzy 9 soat oldin
im christian and if you want to be lgbtq then go ahead, because its not my place to judge you. thats like saying my sin isnt bad and yours is
My Life Is Constant Pain
4:16 PREACH
JaM EvolvE
JaM EvolvE 17 soat oldin
No homo
Pizza Anna
Pizza Anna 20 soat oldin
I love how my school does GSA
crayhack
crayhack 21 soat oldin
Marriage is a legal thing right now, not a religious thing. That should never have been a debate
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 34 daqiqa oldin
crayhack you didn’t even answer any of questions. Typical behavior. That’s called avoidance and deflecting.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 3 soat oldin
Heaven belonged to God too, yet suddenly angels were dissatisfied...?
crayhack
crayhack 6 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow way back when we didn't have a secular government and actually there were many places where marriage was a legal affair, but done under a "promise" to their god(s). So yeah it's been a legal affair for quite some time. Right now, we have secular governments, so the god(s) part is not in it unless you personally choose to do that, which is not a requirement from the government
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 soat oldin
crayhack how could it have come from the government if 6000 or so years ago there was no government? 😬 And how would you know? Were you there 6000 or so years ago? You seem pretty confident in your statement. Marriage was invented and created by God. I hate to be the bearer of the bad news, but you’re incorrect.
crayhack
crayhack 10 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow nah bro. Marriage is something that comes from the government, it's a completely legal procedure. Plenty of different people's have marriage in their culture, not just Christians or Jews. It has nothing to do with your god for the vast majority of people in the world. To make it easy, who do you get your marriage license from? The government, or from a religious figure? I'll answer that for you, it's the government. Since the government is completely secular, by law, marriage is lawful, not religious. Anyone should be able to get married as long as they are in a legal status to do so, and that CANNOT be defined by any religion because the law and the government are secular.
Rennini
Rennini 23 soat oldin
Jesus died for everyone. Not just straight people, christians, children, or cis people. I as a bisexual believe that yes acting on such feelings is a sin, but having them isn’t. It’s love. I do NOT believe that you will go to hell for such feelings or acting on them because like I said, Jesus died on the cross for everyone. I do believe that some sins are worse than others, like the girl with the black hair said, but homosexuality to me isn’t something that you should go to hell for because it’s love! To be fair, I am not one to talk about what people can and cannot act on as I VERY much show that I am in love with a girl and a guy at the same time. :P I just wanted to make any fellow Christian LGBTQ+ ppl feel a little better. Remember, God loves you. ^^
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow I know that if I was all knowing and I created humans who I know will burn in hell at the end, I'd have to be sadistic enough.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
+Oh Wowow So you know more than God? The Supreme Being who spoke the Universe into existence? 😂😂😂 I've heard some whoppers in my lifetime, but this one tops them.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
Most of your post is accurate. Having romantic/sexual feelings towards members of the same sex/gender is unnatural and of corrupt substance. God never intended for that.. You're right, it's not sin to have developed these tendencies or feelings. You're also correct that if you act upon them, it is a sin.. But just because Jesus Christ died on the cross doesn't give you a free ticket to sin. If you are a child of God, meaning a born again Christian, he will punish an discipline you.. If you're not a child of God. Aka an unbeliever, you're not his child, but you do have hell awaiting for you, then the lake of fire. Where I will correct you is when you say that homosexuality is Love. The Bible is clear that its not love.. It clearly states its Lust stemming from Vile affections. Homosexuality is demonic in nature, and is of the Devil. God did not create people homosexuals, nor did he create homosexuality. It's an abomination to God. Rennini, sin is not something you wan to play with.. You better get it right with God and make sure you're a born again Christian..
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 12 soat oldin
If god loved us, he would have not created us because he knows most will go to hell if he does. The fact that he went ahead with it makes me think he is pretty sadistic.
Il Y Aura Du Soleil
Il Y Aura Du Soleil 23 soat oldin
*Hoooooold on!* The title says ‘’Christians’’, you called them ‘’conservatives’’, and the text on screen says ‘’traditional marriage’’. What the hell?! These are three different things!!
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
That should show you how leftists, Libtards, LGBTQ people, love to stereotype the people they're intolerant of. The groups conservatives, republicans, and christian all in the same group.
Ivy Carola
Ivy Carola 23 soat oldin
They were actually all reasonable people 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Henri Bergeron
Henri Bergeron Kun oldin
That girl with the blue everything looks like a fruit roll up.
Wolfist Life
Wolfist Life Kun oldin
I am LGBTQ+ and Christian
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 2 soat oldin
Oh Wowow everyone is different. Where the relevance? A Christian will never be a “Christian and catholic” or “Christian and LGBTQ” or a “Christian and Mormon” that’s not how Christianity works. If you’re going to be commenting or giving opinions on a topic such as Christianity, you need to spend more time reading and studying the Bible
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow people are different.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
Thats not possible. Thats an oxymoron. Born again Christians would not be a part of wordy and evil organization. 1 John 2:15 > Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Broken Pencil
Broken Pencil Kun oldin
I’m either Catholic or Agnostic idk but I’m also bi soooo y’all we’re not all homophobes
Sarah Fields
Sarah Fields Kun oldin
Nope. It'll never get to a point where Christians will be okay with LGBTQ+ people. O know because I grew up a Pentecostal Christian. Since a week after I was born, I have been in church. Almost everyday. Tuesdays bible study, Thuessays more bible study, Friday's were choir practices, Saturday was Sunshine band and purity and Sunday was all day and into the late evening with church. I lived at church. When I was 15, my grandma found a letter from the girl I liked at the time. I got put in a circle at church and was pelted with blessed oils and holy water while the Mother and Evangelists tried to rebuke Satan outta me. I was 16 when I came out as Pansexual and I was more or less, disowned. I don't personally think Christians will ever change. Not when the vast majority are hypocrites. They used to preach that I was going to hell for going against God when no Christian out there follows the bible to a 't'. You evercut your hair? Mixed patterns? Thought someone else's partner was attractive? Than you are sinning. No one talks about thosething though. That's why as soon as I turned 16, I never went back to church. And I wont go back. From what they say, God might strike me down. Its just sad because I still love God. Of course. I just hate having religion shoved down my throat and whose to say that Christians are right? There are thousands of other religions that preach live and peace. Why is it that Christians feel the need to make me believe what they believe. They say they love you but in the same breath say 'Stop being gay because you're gonna go to he'll for basically not agreeing with me' its just simply unfair
Sarah Fields
Sarah Fields 12 soat oldin
+Doris Uhlman And I hope,you find it too someday ☺
Doris Uhlman
Doris Uhlman 13 soat oldin
+Sarah Fields And I'm glad to hear everything worked out for you and that your happy now!
Doris Uhlman
Doris Uhlman 13 soat oldin
+Sarah Fields Yes☺ and thankyou. And u are in my prayers
Sarah Fields
Sarah Fields 23 soat oldin
+Doris Uhlman And the same for you. I'm 22 now. I have a son and a wife. I just wanna let you know that it gets better. Please always remember to always know who you are. I almost forgot. It's so easy to. Once your 18, life gets better because you can start living for you. I will pray for you and hopefully you for me. We have to keep the faith. 💙☺
UniverseBro
UniverseBro Kun oldin
I as a Christian don’t have anything against homosexuality, it’s just that there are so many things in the Bible that are easily mistaken and misinterpreted, that people think that. I could be completely wrong, and that’s on me, we’ll find out eventually, but I just don’t think God would consider it a sin because you love someone. God wants us to love each other and him, so I don’t really think gender would matter all that much.
AnnaUnicorn
AnnaUnicorn Kun oldin
But I’m Christian and I fully support the LGBTQ+ community
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 soat oldin
AnnaUnicorn You have a lot of insight. You’re a great person to discuss and debate with. You’re rare. I like it. Kudos to you. Most people are clueless about scripture. God may have created mankind but he didn’t create them homosexual. God made Adam and Even perfect in his image. When Adam and Eve sinned, this sin corrupted mankind, and from this sin, stems all other sin. Same sex attraction is a corrupt state of mind. Whether you’re born with it or not, that’s irrelevant, what’s relevant is that it’s unnatural and corrupt. Had God intended to make people homosexual, that would negate the natural use of a woman. And no he didn’t intend for that. So homosexuality is an abomination to God, it goes against creation and Biblical law! Hope this helps and clarifies.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 soat oldin
AnnaUnicorn now about interpreting the Bible. I know that you say there are many ways to interpret the Bible, and a lot of people believe like you. But the Bible is clear about how to interpret the Bible. According to scripture you must let Bible interpret the Bible, otherwise people it won’t be interpreted properly!
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 7 soat oldin
AnnaUnicorn that’s awesome. KJV is the version that has withstood the test of time. That is the most reliable and accurate English version. And you’re also correct about God’s chosen people having wrote the Bible, inspired by God. 40 or so authors. You are well versed. Im impressed!
D Pinoy
D Pinoy 2 kun oldin
Yes look how vicious they are to each other
Spirit Studio
Spirit Studio 2 kun oldin
Dude, I'm Christian and Pan so... Edit: stop saying I'm not Christian or it's not natural, I don't give a crap, cause it's natural cause I'm not a robot!😡😡😡
Big Mitchy
Big Mitchy 3 soat oldin
Then you're not Christian.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
Then you need to address that issue with God.. Thats not normal or natural. You should be attracted to members of the opposite gender, unless you have the gift of celibacy.. God never intended for people to be attracted to members of the same gender, animals, objects, or children.
Rennini
Rennini 22 soat oldin
I’m a Christian and bi 🤠🙏🏽
5Gonza5
5Gonza5 2 kun oldin
Is it okey if I hate both?
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
+Oh Wowow What is your point? Knowing something doesn't mean you're the one orchestrating it.. If I have kids I know they're going to wet the bed, poop their diapers and fall a few times before they walk.. Does that mean I'm responsible? Not a chance. The problem you have, is that you have this Libtard leftist mentality where you blame someone else for your own wrong doings. You claim that I don't live in reality? Based on your behavior and words, and placing blame on others, its clear that you are the one who doesn't live in reality.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 12 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow Again. God is all knowing. He already has the future written down in his magical head. This is the reality that god (supposedly) made for us to live in. Which means before he created everything, he saw what would take place if he did it and he approved of it. If God really exists, I am just acting out Gods plan thinking I have free will.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow Kun oldin
Oh Wowow no. Why would it be an ilusión? Don’t you make decisions to do what you want? You’re deciding now not to believe in God. You’re also making a choice to read and respond to my comment!
LilBlasian Peep
LilBlasian Peep 2 kun oldin
Can we get satanist/atheist and Christians in 1 room hehe
adparsons
adparsons 2 kun oldin
God isn’t a gender.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
The gender of God is referring to the male who is homophobic af
Bruh
Bruh 2 kun oldin
wait....doesn’t Jesus teach us to love everyone and everything? What about love your neighbor as yourself?
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow Soat oldin
Oh Wowow where’s your evidence to back up your claim. And can you elaborate with what and how am I clouded? And what imaginary friend would I have? Who did I imagine up? Have you read your comment?😬
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow You've clouded yourself bro, you're afraid of your imaginary friend not being real. 😂 This is like Toy Story, lmaoooo
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 soat oldin
+Orinoco Flow So your god says whoever disbelieves doesn't disbelieve because there's no evidence but because they hate god? Lmfao bro, you retard. Why does it go right over your head? I've told you I don't hate God. I just don't believe due to no evidence. A book predicted that people would get angry? Wow, what a breakthrough.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 10 soat oldin
+Oh Wowow Hahah. Whats ironic is that you're reaction is predicted and addressed in the Bible. A normal reaction would be of curiosity and intrigue. Yet your reaction is anger and hostility and, this is what's interesting.. You're an unbeliever and you hate the truth and you hate God. John 15:18-19 > “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. (You are of this world) John 3:20 > Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. (The light is synonymous with the truth, and you hate it, you have already produced this behavior) So what are the odds? You want evidence? Look in the mirror.
Terrence Morrison
Terrence Morrison 2 kun oldin
As a gay man, I don't need the acceptance or tolerance from anyone. All I ask is for your respect and you to mind your own business, and I'll do the same.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
If everyone could do that, we'd live in peace.
Joram Ike
Joram Ike 2 kun oldin
The girl with short hair just questioned the reason why she was lesbian meaning does some gays don't think they are born that way
Dave Cullins
Dave Cullins 2 kun oldin
As a guy from an atheist country most of this discussion just seems like a discussion of fanfictional bull****, so it's funny to see what it looks like when religion is being taken seriously as if it was actually real.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Dave Cullins his ho lee buk
Dave Cullins
Dave Cullins Kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Sure, you and what evidence apart from that thingling feeling in your stomach that tells you it's real?
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Can you prove that?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm jk I'm jk.
costco freezer
costco freezer 2 kun oldin
i’m not religious nor am i sure if i’m apart of the community (i don’t know my sexuality) but i do support lgbtq+ 110%
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
You're the Q part of lgbtq.
R. J
R. J 2 kun oldin
The fact that MOST of them believe in a HIGHER POWER regardless of sexual orientation satisfies me. Bcause there is..and you are loved regardless of that sexual orientation.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Maksie0 It's rather irritating. Lol
Maksie0
Maksie0 Kun oldin
Orinoco still doesn't get how sexuality works, despite having it had explained to him multiple times. Sad.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow But the fact is, he already knows who's gonna choose him. That's the whole point of being all knowing. You know all.
Holden Leathers
Holden Leathers 2 kun oldin
When the one with blue hair described here version of a higher power, I was like, "Oh my God (yes, I get the irony of that exclamation), that's literally how I describe my beliefs."
Aiden Tak
Aiden Tak 3 kun oldin
I'm bisexual, and I'm a Christian. Get Me!
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Homosexuality isn't a sin until proven.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow How is being attracted to the same sex unnatural? If someone is good looking, you find them attractive. Works for both genders.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 2 kun oldin
What is source of endangerment?
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 2 kun oldin
Aiden Tak I was just attempting to understand what you meant. Sometimes people will say, I’m Christian and I’m Married to someone of the same sex/gender. Or I’m In a relationship with someone of the same gender and also a Christian. I don’t think they’re both possible. At least not according to scripture. Thanks for clarifying
Rustic Bred
Rustic Bred 3 kun oldin
The asian guy with the spotted shirt claims he's conservative, but a lot of the things he says is pretty liberal.
Sergio Alvarez
Sergio Alvarez 3 kun oldin
LGBTQ and Muslims can they find a common ground!!
F ormula
F ormula 3 kun oldin
Totes can
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 kun oldin
My cousins are muslim and they have a bisexual friend. So... Some can.
NTrendSick
NTrendSick 3 kun oldin
these are the kind of conversations we need to be having. No judgement or condescending tones. Just being honest with each other. I love how the pastors shared stories that were deep and real with them and how they all bonded with each other towards the end. At the end of the day we are all humans with different backgrounds and upbringings and we are called to love each other. No matter what we believe in. Honest conversation and really listening to that person and what's important to them is what brings change. Not yelling at them about how their actions will send them to hell. Not just throwing verses at their face or exclaiming prayers. It's about actually listening to each other and loving each other despite our differences that will change the world
Angel
Angel 3 kun oldin
This is the best one I’ve seen so far, everyone is so respectful and well spoken to each other I love it
Lilje Polak
Lilje Polak 3 kun oldin
That speech about sexual abuse... That was the most powerful and sad thing that happened throughout the video in my opinion
Nose Trade
Nose Trade 3 kun oldin
It takes some lack of awareness to say gay love is detestable. That makes it sound like it is disgusting, foul, horrible when obviously these LGBTQ+ people have felt meaningful love in their same sex relationships. God never once says in the bible that it is "detestable"
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow People CAN be indoctrinated into Christianity. What you have is a personal truth. Nothing more.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow It's only wrong if a God exists. Which there is no proof for. So, when you say being gay is unnatural is not a fact, but an opinion... A flawed opinion. ;)
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 2 kun oldin
+Nose Trade You're not getting it.. Down Syndrome is unnatural. It Goes against the way God intended people to be.. that's a fact. Being attracted to someone of the same gender is also unnatural, it's stems from a corrupt mind. I am not calling this a sin. Sin is when you choose to disobey God's law. What I am calling immoral is homosexuality or homosexual acts. To put it in laymen terms. Sodomy. No one puts a gun to anyone's head and forces them to sodomize each other. Sodomy is an abomination, end of story.. Its simple and crystal clear.
Nose Trade
Nose Trade 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Again putting words in the bible that dont exist. Doesn't say it is mentally wrong. And to compare it to down syndrome is actually disproving your argument because there isn't anything morally wrong with people with down syndrome, it is simply a chromosome anomaly, meaning is genetic and nothing they do can change it. So if you want to compare being gay to something that is 100% genetic and you cant change, go ahead. Rememeber, there is a difference between your interpretation of the bible and what the literal words of the bible say.
Lola Alvarez-Maldonado Trabucchelli
I'm a Christian and I am not against gay marriage the opposite actually and I don't think the tittle of this video is quite right
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow He/she meant the comment section.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 2 kun oldin
F ormula of course. Welcome to Earth. Where did you think I was? On mars or the international space station?
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+F ormula LMAO
F ormula
F ormula 3 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow *YOU'RE STILL HERE?!*
Kar3n
Kar3n 3 kun oldin
1 corinthians6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[b]will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[c] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Kar3n
Kar3n 3 kun oldin
It doest matter what u think or what delusion u got but is serious if u commit homosexuality you will be destroyed. And will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 kun oldin
lol u fell for the bull.
Evelyn DeBlasi
Evelyn DeBlasi 3 kun oldin
I’ve been reading Christian as Christmas this whole time
Nickibeebs
Nickibeebs 3 kun oldin
Why do people correlate homophobia with Christianity ? Ya there’s a lot of non/ religious people who dislike gays and lesbians, but just because you’re a Christian doesn’t make you automatically a “homophobe”.
YongbokGlow
YongbokGlow 3 kun oldin
i wish all people could be respectful, you can still choose to have your own beliefs, faiths, morals, & opinions but still respect others and not judge them and invalidate them based on it.
Hush Puppers7
Hush Puppers7 3 kun oldin
I am lesbian and Christian and I am still a firm believer in god. Period.
Edward Kasperovich
Edward Kasperovich 3 kun oldin
Why can’t there be more respectful and loving sit downs like this? It’s encouraging to see this kind of dialogue.
Kel-is Perkins
Kel-is Perkins 4 kun oldin
ima just say, opinions are allowed, but if you can have the heart to tell someone they can't love who the frick they wanna love because thats not the way gOd InTeNdEd It then put me into hell with all the gay and bi and pan and queer and trans and others in the community because im not gonna let someone tell me that i can't love a girl because i am one. Girls are awesome. Guys are awesome. Non Binary people are awesome. Genderqueer people are awesome. Genderfluid people are awesome. I am a proud genderfluid bisexual. I dont give two fricks about your beliefs. because love is love.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Are you saying it's a mental disorder because your God doesn't like it, or do you make your own mind up instead of letting a book make it up for you? If we were created then yes it goes against it, but there is no evidence of a God creating anything. If you agree sex is not just for making a child, there is no reason to call it unnatural simply because the same genders are intimate together. It is called love, not sin. No need to be a dick about what two people do in private.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 2 kun oldin
Oh Wowow Yes, is course I can say it is, and not prove it. I just did, twice
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow and yes, closeted gays are relevant.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow It isn't a mental disorder, asshole. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Having sex is not just for reproduction. It's also for fun and to show how much you love your partner. People have different sexual orientations. Gay couples can adopt if they want a child. You must prove the Bible is from God, THEN homosexuality is a sin. You can't say it is and not prove it.
a r m y
a r m y 4 kun oldin
Lets count how many times she says *"Beliefs"*
Simon Salazar
Simon Salazar 4 kun oldin
In Gods eyes sin is sin, no matter how big or small it is, as a Christian we are thought to not judge and love everyone not matter what. We judge so much other people without looking at our self and seeing how we are. People need to spread love and positivity 🖤 And God loves everyone
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 3 kun oldin
Oh Wowow or perhaps you’re not willing or wanting to be convinced. Perhaps you don’t want to find out God actually does exist! He has plenty of ways of manifesting himself to you! However.... He is very respectful of your free will.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow 1. I didn't reject anything. I'm simply not convinced. Being convinced isn't a choice, but trying to convince myself is a choice. 2. Either God doesn't wanna convince me or he doesn't know how.
WKC - MASK
WKC - MASK 4 kun oldin
they said conservatives not Christians this is a vey gross generalization and proves the liberal bias on this channel you don't have to be right leaning to believe in Christ..
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
They happen to put that all on one group and stereotype 😒😬
WKC - MASK
WKC - MASK 4 kun oldin
and again they said traditional marriage instead of Christians false advert
Noah Suter
Noah Suter 4 kun oldin
SKSKKSKS " the gAy community "
A K S U
A K S U 4 kun oldin
LGBT = *Lets.Get.This.Bread*
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 2 kun oldin
LBGT = Let's Be Gay Together!
Catherine Rachel Samuel Rajkumar
God loves everybody no matter what.. He created us.. He knows everything about us.. Our desires and our thoughts.. He doesn't discriminate.. And he loves everybody..!! ❤️ I'm a straight Christian woman.. And I truly believe that God loves each of us without discrimination
MaxCovington543
MaxCovington543 4 kun oldin
There's a "+" now?
Rhys Moreland
Rhys Moreland 4 kun oldin
Wanted to see more of the pastor talking
Nyx
Nyx 4 kun oldin
Can I just say that being Christian and being Homophobic are two very different things. I’m LGBTQ+ and I have some Christian friends who are very straight, but they are incredibly supportive and one of them even set me up with my ex gf while the other set my up with my ex bf.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Oh Wowow what’s not true? You weren’t specific with your question. To all snowflakes and fruitcakes: This is a lot of fun, learning all the nonsense garbage that comes out of your minds. It’s really entertaining to see how ya’ll back yourselves into corners you can’t get out of! Great advice? Live in reality and stick to the truth. Living a lie won’t get you far.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Maksie0 then why are you getting upset with me? I’m simply giving information, not telling people how to live. Can you please articulate where on the comment section, I’m telling people how to live?
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 4 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow It's not true if you can't prove it's from God and not liars. 🤦
Kolton
Kolton 5 kun oldin
surprisingly wholesome
Samantha Mashaw
Samantha Mashaw 5 kun oldin
Formerly-Christian blonde dude is a model of composure, damn.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Oh Wowow as I said that’s not possible. Where’s your evidence to back up your claim? You’re just a bogus liar, full of ignorant Bologna. Once you’re a Christian you’re a always a Christian. You’re salvation is permanent. John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. No offense, but you’re a total hypocrite, thinking your know more about the Bible, when clearly you’ve never read and studied it.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 4 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow One who believes in the christian God, then stops believing due to the realisation that there's no evidence to back it up. Bingo bango bongo, you're a former Christian. 👏👏
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Samantha Mashaw formerly Christian? Perhaps I missed that part. You can’t be a former Christian. That’s impossible.
Ollie Black
Ollie Black 5 kun oldin
When are people gonna stop getting so hung up on text that was written 2000+ or however many years ago, I’m not heavily religious but these texts are honestly so amazing in some ways but also so contradictory. People need to realise that society has moved on. Sex to some people is a very private thing, I personally don’t believe sex between anyone gender is a sin, before or after marriage. Laws and society has changed, peoples outdated opinions and close minds need to change in order to gain a more harmonic, peaceful world for the majority
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow lmfaoooooo
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
chris sonofpear1 on the context of humans, being made in his image perhaps. God, and us humans share many attributes!
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Oh Wowow sounds like someone’s had too much too drink. Desperation and lack of self control could be a dangerous thing
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 4 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow hey baby, wanna shave me? ;O
Kayleigh
Kayleigh 5 kun oldin
I read the title as “lgbtq vs Christmas Eve..”
Hairy Meatball
Hairy Meatball 5 kun oldin
You can love the same gender just not sexually
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Oh Wowow hahah. I quoted a few pieces of evidence that you couldn’t even refute. I’ll give you another one. In this case the evidence is you, so make sure you have a mirror so you can see it with your own eyes. You have claimed to be an unbeliever. And have also claimed that God doesn’t exist. Yet you’ve offered no evidence to support your claims. Yet the Bible has supplied the reason as to why you believe or think God doesn’t exist. Here’s a the passage 2 Corinthians 4:4 > Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. “And here’s the reason why you stay as far away from the possibility of God existing” John 3:20 > Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. Here’s a question for you. Why do you spend so much time on this topic? If God doesn’t exist, then why does it have so much power and control over your time and energy? The Bible answers that too. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 4 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow You have a whole Christian view on what love is and what the origin of it is. There is no evidence for God. 😂 God is an unfalsifiable hypothesis which basically means you cannot prove nor disprove it. A man can love another man because they can. It is not disgusting, it is not filthy. If you think it is, then you're just a Christian. If God is all great and powerful, I'm sure he can do better than a book which doesn't prove his existence. You can believe the Bible is evidence for God. And I'll believe my Spiderman comic book is evidence for Spiderman. ;)
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 4 kun oldin
Oh Wowow for your troubles. Love’s original and accurate definition. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres
Fox Flix 2
Fox Flix 2 5 kun oldin
why is there a plus sign now
emmahayhay
emmahayhay 5 kun oldin
Im a very proud christian and I believe that a sin is a sin no matter what so like a christian committing a sexual sin isnt any different from a christian in a homo. relationship and that no matter what you need to love them
Angie
Angie 5 kun oldin
Why is America SO heavily Christian? Europe is so much more secular.
MHM
MHM 5 kun oldin
Can I just say how the comments are more entertaining than the video???
Talon Sage
Talon Sage 5 kun oldin
We're a pagan family. When my daughter was 10, a local church held what I called "Pizza With Jesus" in the park at the head of our street. They had games and activities and pizza. Before you got pizza, you got Jesus. Each sex divided age group had a volunteer to discuss the Bible topic of the day. We encouraged her to take part bc, everyone should have knowledge. Even though she knew Christianity's roots, ect, it never hurts to learn from other people. Some days I went and hung out (the lady for my daughter's group was shocked at my biblical knowledge, but that's another story.), some days I didn't. I had stayed home one Monday (it was Monday evenings thru the summer) and she came home and asked me if sex before marriage was wrong. I said, no, it's not wrong. Why do you ask? Her response: "I didn't THINK it was wrong! What they said just didn't make sense at all!!!" My girl. Proud mama.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 5 kun oldin
Unaffected, as yet, by assorted guilts. Although, true, we need SOME protective instincts...
Tragically Rad
Tragically Rad 5 kun oldin
Im not against homosexuality i am Christian but i feel like its wrong. But i still support it because love to me is love if that makes sense.
Mr.masky
Mr.masky 5 kun oldin
Atheist and Christian middleground please can we see that
Sergio
Sergio 6 kun oldin
well. I am a man and I am heterosexual. I like being called "man", simple. that is what I am. I hate being called "cis male" or other terms like that
Willow Joy
Willow Joy 6 kun oldin
*cries in gay*
hana
hana 6 kun oldin
"Wouldn't you say that sex within certain contexts is detestable? Like if it's non-consensual?" That's not sex, that's rape, and it has nothing to do with the discussion of whether premarital sex is sinful.
Timmy Motyka
Timmy Motyka 6 kun oldin
Finally Christians ✝️ and LGBTQ 🏳️‍🌈 people can get along. Normally they argue fight and butt heads on this topic!
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Some Christians do, so you're wrong.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
Timmy Motyka of course Christians and LGBTQ+ people can get along. The only thing is that Christians will never support their cause or lifestyle. But that doesn’t impede getting along!
Emanuel Abraham
Emanuel Abraham 6 kun oldin
So killing a human and killing a animal is not same thing.?
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow We ARE animals. We evolved, remember
BlueArtedPanda
BlueArtedPanda 6 kun oldin
im pan. im non-binary. im christian.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
BlueArtedPanda Do you mind showing me passages in the Bible that references pansexuals and non binaries?
Regan Linkous
Regan Linkous 6 kun oldin
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being part of lgbtqia!! 🏳️‍🌈 Edit: disagree with me...let’s see how much hate I get in the comments
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Lol, you've never died before.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
Regan Linkous as far as society and worldly views are concerned, you’re right there’s probably not much wrong with being past if that community. What really matters, is whether it’s wrong in Gods eyes. He’s the one you have to face when you die! And the answer is, yes, it’s very wrong in Gods eyes to participate in such a community and it’s an abomination to engage in acts of homosexuality!
Waluigi
Waluigi 6 kun oldin
Yo I'm an atheist and I'm gay, someome argue with me please.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 5 kun oldin
I'm used to arguing. It helps me learn about different views (and where uniformity that's claimed often DOES not exist...)
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow you're giving him what he wants lmfaooooo
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
Why would you want someone to argue with you? What topic? Wouldn’t debate be better than argue?
Elliott 7008
Elliott 7008 6 kun oldin
Okay let's go snubbed smash Bros character "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" so prove me wrong
joanna the turtle fish
Becky was so respectful and overall I think everyone was however the person with blue eyebrows was a bit disrespectful when she said pronoun police.i think the most respectful people were the christian however that could be biased as I am also cheistaian
Kacey Cruz
Kacey Cruz 6 kun oldin
Why is there never muslims and Jews vs lgbtq?! You’d never dare would you?!Christian’s are not the only ones who believes sexual immorality and homosexuality are sins.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow maybe it's not 😮🤔
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
They attract the real threat which is Christianity. That’s why.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 6 kun oldin
why so mad?
my blood sweat & tears are dirty water
You should have put Catholics and LGBT+ together. I grew up Catholic and in 8th grade our pastor came and taught us about homophobia and that gays are lying.
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
I know there’s a Bible in the catholic organization. Have you ever fact checked what the Catholics priest told you with the Bible? It’s sad how the Roman Catholic Doctrine is so blatantly disrespectful to God and the Bible.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 6 kun oldin
Lying about what lmao
Jay S
Jay S 6 kun oldin
“I identify as they” omgggg 😂😂😂
Eddie Brock TV
Eddie Brock TV 6 kun oldin
They say love is love. So that means incest is ok.
Chris Hansen
Chris Hansen 6 kun oldin
As a Christian that was born a Christian and raised as one I would say that I don’t hate the LGBTQ community but I don’t think what they are doing is right nor do I support it. They have my respect at the end of the day and if one of them would be getting victimized I would step in. I just hope that people stop seeing Christianity as something bad, I don’t care if you believe in a god or not, this completely my beliefs and you have yours
joshua person
joshua person 6 kun oldin
I'm Christian in the bible I believe it says, man with a woman and woman with a man so for me thats were i say thats what i will fallow, I don't care if you think that's bad or homophobic .........Buttttt it tells me to love the sin and hate the sinner for that reason I will hang out lgbtq people it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all I disagree with their stand point the same as any political parties
Henry Finman
Henry Finman 6 kun oldin
It annoys me to no end how they put put the title in reverse order of the thumbnail for the 2 groups on these videos
Victoria Marks
Victoria Marks 7 kun oldin
Jesus said to follow 2 rules. Love god and love each other so i dont understand why those christians think that homosexuality is a sin
Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris 7 kun oldin
I really wish the lgbt would stop trying to force the they/them pronoun thing. It’s common since that there is only 2 genders. From the beginning of time there has been 2 genders. I understand they want to identify as something but you can’t magically say it and it just come true.
Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris 5 kun oldin
Maksie0 they are the same thing dude. It’s just in the past couple years people have been trying to say they’re different.
Maksie0
Maksie0 5 kun oldin
I feel like you may be confusing sex and gender.
Joseph Harris
Joseph Harris 5 kun oldin
Maksie0 they has been used when referring to someone that you don’t know there gender yet, yes,. But you can not just be a they/them you are male/female.
Necro Fell
Necro Fell 7 kun oldin
Well let's actually think unbiased for a moment : If God is a "Grand Planned" as bible(or any religious scriptures) regards him to be, then isn't homosexuality part of his "grand plan". Also if he/she is omniscient, then he/she already knew about homosexuality, So......So he/she actually would approve of homosexuality OR has doomed these people to an eternity in hell not because they are like that way but because he planned it to be.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 3 kun oldin
+chris sonofpear1 Whenever I do get that "maybe there is a God" moment... It's not the god of any Religion. It is simply a being powerful enough to create a universe.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 5 kun oldin
Well, some version might exist. Possibly that has whole test figured out, or has all beings perceive the life experience of every other being they effected (and may need to reincarnate to repay a debt to) Just one, fairly detailed account.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Necro Fell the christian God is simply too ridiculous to exist. Don't even get me started on the Muslim god
Rejoice ChristisKing
I loved that
Sphmer.
Sphmer. 7 kun oldin
I want them to do LGBTQ+ vs. Muslims. Christians are the prime target for homophobia, but the media is always focused on Christians.
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow Christianity isn't the truth. You've fooled yourself and you don't see it.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 7 kun oldin
If you go around expecting to be persecuted, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Especially when getting forceful and making claims about human nature that others may contest...
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 7 kun oldin
Because Christianity is the truth. Only a true threat is going to be under attack. You only attack a criminal intruder, why? because he's the real threat. Yet you can have a complete stranger, such as the plumber or gardener, come into your house, and you're not going to attack him or her.. Why? Because they're not a real threat. Emphasis on the word real.
Katty03 17
Katty03 17 7 kun oldin
I’m a christian and support lgbtq 100% just because I’m Christian they assume that I’m homophobic but I’m not im the opposite 🏳️‍🌈
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow 5 kun oldin
+Orinoco Flow They didn't rebel, they don't hate God. They see no evidence for God, therefore they live their own life, which could be their only one. They don't wanna waste it worshipping a God they have no proof for. You talk as though being gay is a choice, it is not. Don't you understand that if it is not a choice, they should be allowed to live that way? The fact is, there is no evidence for God, therefore no good reason to believe it exists. Sound reasonable?
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 6 kun oldin
chris sonofpear1 it does seem very steep, u til you understand the reasoning and context behind it. There’s a lot of things I don’t like about God and the Bible. But I can’t tell God how to run things. Isaiah 55:8-9 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 6 kun oldin
The one that couldn't stop people being stoned for talking back to parents? Seems a bit steep...
Joel Ramirez
Joel Ramirez 7 kun oldin
Lady in blue I just don't trust. She apart of something else to further pull us from God but everyone else I understand. I believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior while also believing that being gay or lesbian or anything else is between them an God not me. I am supposed to love them just the same. I believe as a man of faith we are supposed to teach about Jesus and to love one another everything else is between you as an individual and God.
IM A Shooketh THICC BOI
In youth I think it will but for some it isn’t
Rrobb Wilson
Rrobb Wilson 7 kun oldin
Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Natalie Gem
Natalie Gem 7 kun oldin
when Jesus was on earth he loved prostitutes, murderers, and liars and gave them a second chance, so shouldn’t us Christians be doing the same? ☕️🐸
Oh Wowow
Oh Wowow Kun oldin
+Alex Mulvihill they'd never see how God is a lazy answer.
Alex Mulvihill
Alex Mulvihill Kun oldin
Orinoco Flow being gay isn’t a sin and god doesn’t exist and neither does heaven
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 7 kun oldin
Do humans inherit WEAKENED free will from Adam and Eve, Orinoco?
aicha kermal
aicha kermal 7 kun oldin
Converting to Islam liberates a person from slavery to manmade systems and lifestyles. Islam emancipates the mind from superstitions and uncertainties; it liberates the soul from sin and corruption and frees the conscience from oppression and fear. Submission to the will of God, does not curtail freedom, on the contrary it gives a very high degree of freedom by freeing the mind from superstitions and filling it with truth and knowledge. Once a person accepts Islam they are no longer slaves to fashion, or consumerism, and they are free from the slavery of a monetary system designed to subjugate the people. On a smaller but equally as important scale Islam liberates a person from the superstitions that rule the lives of those not truly submitted to God. A believer knows that good and bad luck do not exist. Both the good and the bad aspects of our lives come from God and as Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, explains all the affairs of a believer are good, "If he is granted ease then he is thankful, and this is good for him. And if he is afflicted with a hardship, he perseveres, and this is good for him".[1] After a person is freed from manmade systems and lifestyles he or she is free to worship God in the correct manner. A believer is able to put his trust and hope in God and sincerely seek His mercy. 2. Converting to Islam allows a person to truly experience God’s love. Converting to Islam allows a person to achieve God’s love by following His guide to life - the Quran, and the authentic teachings and traditions of Prophet Muhammad. When God created the world He did not abandon it to instability and insecurity. He sent a rope, firm and steady, and by holding tightly to this rope an insignificant human being can achieve greatness and eternal peace. In the words of Quran, God makes His desires perfectly clear, however human beings have free will and are free to either please or displease God. Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love God then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), God will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 3:31) And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (Quran 3:85) There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut[2] and believes in God, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And God is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (Quran 2:256) 3. A benefit of converting to Islam is that God promises Paradise to the believer. "And those who believe (in the Oneness of God) and do righteous good deeds, to them We shall surely give lofty dwellings in Paradise, underneath which rivers flow, to live therein forever. Excellent is the reward of the workers." (Quran 29: 58) 4. Happiness, tranquillity and inner peace and can be achieved by converting to Islam
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6:00 but if its not consensual then it becomes different because it’s considered rape.....
Icaruspotion
Icaruspotion 8 kun oldin
Yes and pushing an agenda all lgbts hate Christians and all Christians hate lgbt is incredibly toxic and paints a horrible picture of both sides
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 7 kun oldin
Fair enough. I'd never blame a Christian baker for refusing to sell a cake. Will you do others the courtesy of not prejudging them about whether they 'hate' an elusive figure?
Orinoco Flow
Orinoco Flow 7 kun oldin
If people would use the English language properly, they would realize that Christians do not hate members of the LGBTQ+ community.. "What they won't do is "support" their lifestyle and their cause. Lack of support and hate are two totally separate and different terms.
chris sonofpear1
chris sonofpear1 8 kun oldin
It's a common enough view that I suppose it needed to be addressed.
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